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Tyres for the wetter weather

Post by joel352 on Wed 11 Sep 2013 - 22:12

Well it has come to that time where the hypersport tyres have to go and some tyres that stand a chance in the corners in the wet have to go on.

I had battlax tyres on the hyo and was impressed with them and had no issues so I went with my guy and got the new Bridgestone Battlax BT-023 front and rear.

I did a few miles breaking them in and was already impressed with them. The steering response is a bit better than the Avon hyper sports I had on and the feel was good. I think it felt a bit better as the Avon's had a little flat spot on them. I went out for a blast the other day in the dry and went on some twistys and the feel was superb. I didn't have to worry about grip or heat as from leaving the house when they were cold to giving it the beans and tearing round the twistys, there was no grip issues and the steering was fine.

Then today was the wet weather test. It was raining cats and dogs so I decided to go out and give the tyres a good wet run to see if they are any good. I did get a little bit wet but it was worth it to know how my tyres feel. Soooooo, there is no issues with the tyres spinning up on power and the cornering is as good as it is in the dry, and I feel like the bike would perform as it does in the wet as it does in the dry,(maybe being a bit optimistic there but im not doing 200MPH round the isle of man). I like how I feel when riding the bike as I don't have to worry about the bike loosing grip in the corners as there is plenty there and I feel they are up to the task.

If you are wanting some tyres that will cope with the wet and when we get that odd dry day then I would recommend these tyres so far. I have had no issues and I feel confident that these tyres will cope with the task and with what I am wanting. I will put a few more updates as the tyres go on to let you know how they are coping. But I would recommend these tyres so far.

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Post by Admin on Thu 12 Sep 2013 - 15:46

I have these tyres on my Hyo too Smile 

Grip in all weathers is good as you say , I have no issue there ...... BUT

Just one thing to keep your eye on Joel ........... there are reports that certain sizes / profiles of these tyres can produce a slight high speed wobble in long curves Shocked Shocked 

And I can vouch for this .............

I didn't hear about this until I'd had my tyres on around 3 months ........................ which was 3 months of taking my tyre back to the supplier and having my wheel /tyre checked , balanced and scrutinized because every time I hit 80 MPH ( track days of course officer Laughing  ) or more , the whole front end would shimmy and cause the bike to weave like a fish affraid affraid affraid

I knew they used these tyres at Ron Haslams' Race School so I figured it HAD to be the bike or the wheel or else they wouldn't use them , would they ............. BUT

after having the wheel balanced over and over again , the tyre re-fitted , wheel bearings checked and greased , head races checked and greased ......... I finally read in MCN ( when they were testing the NEW, latest offerings from the tyre manufacturers by which time the BT-023's had been around for about a year and were SUPPOSEDLY outclassed by the Dunlop Roadsmarts and the '' NEW '' for the time Metzeler Roadtecs ) that a HIGH SPEED WEAVE in long M/Way style curves is a COMMON occurance on some bikes Shocked Shocked Shocked 

Obviously not all bikes but on some , so must be down to either SIZE or PROFILE .......

It may be that the Hyo wheels just don't suit the 023's whereas the the different profile of the front and wider rear of most modern bikes ( just think how many bikes use a 120/70 front as opposed to the Hyos' 120/60 ) and same for the rear ...... a lot of 600cc and over use a MINIMUM 180 rear tyre ............

Strangely enough , when I bought mine , I had the rear changed first and ran it for a couple of weeks with my old front tyre ( which was still OK , it had just been the rear that had '' squared '' off enough for an advisory on my M.O.T. ) ....... and the bike was SOOOOO stable , the rear stuck like shit to the proverbial blanket - which impressed me SO MUCH that I bought the matching front to make the most of the improved grip Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

So , it seems it's the front tyre that has thrown a spanner in my works .............. gonna try Michelin Power's next I think or maybe try GeeMan's recommendation of Conti Road Attacks ( he loved those on his Hyo 650 ) Wink 

Like I said Joel , it will more than likely be just the Hyo but just be aware , if you do get a weave - IT'S THE TYRE AND NOT YOUR BIKE Cool 

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Re: Tyres for the wetter weather

Post by joel352 on Thu 12 Sep 2013 - 21:41

Well I did 100 (at cadwell park Wink ) and there was no issues and I take the long rout to work just to take a nice corner and its a fast one and there was no weave so I may have got lucky there.
When I get to summer next year I might get some hypersport tyres on and store the BT023 till the wet weather comes if its possible. Its only a case of wheels off tyres on and its about £30.

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Post by Admin on Fri 13 Sep 2013 - 9:07

Yeah , it seems like the smaller /older style wheels like the Hyo are the ones that don't suit the 023's whereas more modern bikes - gixxers , blades , cbr6rr etc are a perfect blend of size /profile Wink 

There's a guy on Northwestbikers.net that can get cheap used tyres ( usually Pirelli Corsas' ) , I'll let you know next time he has some on offer if you like mate ......... ideal for the summer Cool 

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Post by joel352 on Fri 13 Sep 2013 - 20:24

Cheers baz that would be cool. Its just for the summer blasting. Would like something with a bit more stickyness to them for the corners.

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Post by Admin on Fri 13 Sep 2013 - 21:11

Hahaha ............. if they're good enough for this guy , then they should be good enough for the likes of us mate Cool Cool Cool 

http://moto.bridgestone.co.uk/motorcycle-tyres/ranges/battlax/bt-023/

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Post by Admin on Fri 13 Sep 2013 - 21:14

Check the vid at the bottom of the page in the link above ................ takes a couple of mins to load up though Wink 

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Post by joel352 on Fri 13 Sep 2013 - 21:35

Well if he can ride a bike round a corner with them tyres on and not throw the bike down the road then im all good. Cool 
I just need to stop listening to my dad rambling on about what is best for me because he is me apparently Very Happy  and knows best now I have got a gixxer. Razz
When I had the hyo and I wanted parts advice its all look online, look around and just get whatever. Now I have a Suzuki he makes decisions for me. Very Happy 

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Post by Admin on Sun 15 Sep 2013 - 14:17

Hahaha !!!! ................ that's dads for you mate tongue tongue tongue 

We're all the same lol !! it's a kind of built-in instinct to re-live our youth through our kids ( especially if they ride bikes ) lol! lol! lol! 

I'm EXACTLY the same with my lad .............. he's just got an Aprilia RS125 and I've probably done ALL the same things your dad has done ( found all the faults - no matter how small - and suggested how to fix /improve them , commented on how he could have got a newer model for less money and generally , got on his back about stuff he should /needs to get done IMHO Neutral Neutral Neutral  )

I guess , what I haven't done ( and I presume your old fella is the same Wink  ) , is tell him how proud I am of him , he's got himself a cracking little bike - it's the 2005 model ( last of the Rossi/Biaggi style RS' ) but it wasn't registered 'til 2011 ( it sat in Robinsons of Rochdale as a display model for 6 years ) , it has only got just under 2500 miles on the clock , it is a FULL POWER model so it's pushing ( depending on who you listen to Wink ) anything between 28-33 BHP AND ............... he didn't pay a penny for it Shocked Shocked 

His mum bought it for him as a birthday present Cool Cool 

I'm sure your dad is just as proud of you ( like the rest of us dads he just doesn't say it enough ) Smile Smile 

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Post by NickC on Sun 15 Sep 2013 - 14:47

Nice looking bike your lad has Baz Very Happy


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Post by joel352 on Sun 15 Sep 2013 - 21:10

Thats a tastey looking RS. The RS was my first choise of bike befor I saw the GT125R.

But I do agree with you about dads.Very Happy 

But I do wind my dad up. I say to him when he says whens it my turn I say to him you would'nt know what to do with it or well its got a lot of power under that tank I dont think you would be able to handle it Razz Razz

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Post by Admin on Mon 7 Oct 2013 - 23:54

Don't know if you're still interested Joel but have a read of this ( tyres for sale Wink  )

http://www.northwestbikers.net/index.php?threads/part-worn-tyres-and-bead-breaker.19592/

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Post by joel352 on Tue 8 Oct 2013 - 8:19

Thanks for the link baz. Very Happy  I am still interested but my reg rec issues have left me with no cashola sadly Sad 

I will be keeping an eye on that link for more tyres though. For the price he was wanting you carnt argue that. Bike goes away at end of this month begining of next so Il be saving up.

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Post by NickC on Thu 10 Oct 2013 - 21:07

on the subject of tyres I am looking at the Michelin road pilot 3's I can order some in the right size but the speed ratings are W and the hyo's are H will these be ok or is it not recommended ?

Michelin Pilot Road-3 110/70-17 54W & 150/70-17 69W

Hyo standard 110/70-17 54H & 150/70-17 69H

oh and sorry to hijack your thread joel Razz 

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Post by joel352 on Thu 10 Oct 2013 - 21:54

Feel free to hijack it any time pal Very Happy 
With speed ratings, I don't think having a higher speed rating will affect the bike. Baring in mind you have to take into consideration tyre heat, pressure, load, road condition ECT. But I may be wrong. I have always followed the manufacturers recommended ratings for tyres.

F - 50 MPH
J - 62 MPH
L - 75 MPH
M - 81 MPH
P - 93 MPH
R - 106 MPH
S - 112 MPH
H - 130 MPH
V - 150 MPH
Z - 150+ MPH
W - 167 MPH
(W) - 167+ MPH

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