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Post by Admin on Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 21:27

Ok , so this is what is waiting to go on the front of my 650 Wink

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Of course , there will be a PAIR of these , not just the one in the pic Laughing Laughing Laughing

Nissin calipers off a 2002 model Honda CBR 600 FY ........... Master cylinder too Very Happy

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Funds are low at the minute , which is holding things up but all I need now are new Braided Hoses .............. going for a 2 line set up ( hopefully going to get Goodridge Build-a-line kit ) but as some will know , I can't just buy a bike specific kit 'cos of my bars and the fact that the new calipers will sit lower than the OE calipers scratch

Hopefully will have this all sorted in time for Billing in July Cool Cool

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by dragonpage on Thu 25 Apr 2013 - 8:30

Looking good Baz, have brought a black master cylinder from a bandit 600 off of eBay £20 Smile, soon as I can afford it I'll get some RED brake lines and change the lot.
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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by NOOBY1 on Thu 25 Apr 2013 - 22:21

Baz m8 where did you get the spacer's from m8 ?

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Thu 25 Apr 2013 - 23:40

Got mine made for me by an engineering firm in Leigh , Manchester ............ I made MDF templates and got him to copy them Wink

You can buy something VERY similar off ONE OFF CUSTOM DESIGNS ( through their Facebook page ) ....... theirs' are 2 piece where as mine are 1 solid piece ( wished I'd copyrighted the bloody things now ...... I sent detailed pics and measurements to a guy on Korider.com and within a couple of weeks OOCD had produced their own version which looks ALMOST IDENTICAL when the 2 pieces are together ) Shocked Shocked

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Sun 30 Jun 2013 - 18:13

Well , haven't been on the forum much lately so this is just an update on the stuff I haven't done Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed 

Cash is in short supply as usual , so it's took me a while but I did manage to buy some of the parts needed for the BUILD-A LINE kit ..............bought a couple of the angled banjos that I will need ( and will be in a position where I can buy some more next week and possibly the lines the week after ........ fingers crossed Wink Wink )

Also managed to buy a new STATOR COVER GASKET ............ when I replaced my stator , I managed to rip the gasket and so ever since due to the rip ( and the fact I re-used the old gasket rather than replace it ) , my bike has had a slight oil weep which means every couple of days or so , it gets harder to find neutral than normal and the gearbox becomes really notchy and therefore has to be topped up at least once a week .

So with a new gasket and some MORE fresh oil , all should be well again Smile 

All that will be needed after that will be a new chain and sprocket set for the M.O.T in August Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Thu 11 Jul 2013 - 21:47

Well , been busy at work the last couple of weeks ( working loads of overtime ) , so funds have looked a little healthier so I changed the stator cover gasket last weekend ............ and can happily report THE OIL LEAK IS CURED Cool Cool Cool 

Have also bought a couple more banjo's , so all that I need now are a double length bolt and the 2 brake hoses ( next week Wink  ) ............. 

Would have bought one of the lines this week but decided to buy a new Renthal front sprocket instead Smile 

Get paid tomorrow , so will be ordering a new X-ring chain , so hopefully , I should be all sorted for my MOT ............... hope so 'cos my insurance runs out 2 days after MOT runs out Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Sun 21 Jul 2013 - 18:18

OK , latest update .........................

Have now bought all the bolts and banjo's I need , so just need to put them all on as a mock-up so I can calculate/measure the length of hoses I will need Wink 

Still not got a new chain as yet ................. though I am waiting for my new LIGHTWEIGHT ALLOY rear sprocket to be delivered Very Happy 

Was going to order a SUPERSPROX rear sprocket ( as they don't do a Hyosung fitment , I would have had to have one custom made ) , however , even though you can buy them for most JAP bikes for around £45-£50 in the UK , a custom job HAS to come from direct from the manufacturer in USA ............... would have cost a TOTAL of $213 USD to be deliverd to UK , which is around £143 ........................ YES £143 , that isn't a misprint Shocked Shocked Shocked ............. AND there would probably be Import Duty to pay on top of that too Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

Soooooooooooo .......... after a little searching on T'internet , I came across a UK company that could make me a LIGHTWEIGHT ALLOY sprocket ala Renthal style , which can be anodised in a variety of colours AND delivered for under £50 Cool Cool , so I am now awaiting the arrival of my new RED rear sprocket Very Happy 


Chain is next on the list Wink 


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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by joel352 on Sun 21 Jul 2013 - 21:10

Looks like its all coming together Baz. I like the idea of having a red sprocket. That will look tasty.
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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Wed 24 Jul 2013 - 21:47

Chain ordered last night .............. Renthal S4 SRS Gold Wink 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Sat 17 Aug 2013 - 23:08

OK guys , here's the latest update ...............

Well , it seems I've been screwed yet again Mad Mad Mad 

The red sprocket I ordered hasn't turned up yet and even after numerous phone calls ( phone doesn't even ring , just cuts off after a couple of seconds ) and several e-mails and a couple of messages through a contact form on the companies' web site .......... I have had NOTHING in the way of communication other than an initial e-mail from them to confirm my order Crying or Very sad 

It's like they have just vanished or stopped trading ........ FFS Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad 

So , next step is a PayPal dispute to get my cash back Rolling Eyes 

DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY GUYS ..................... MOTO-RACING.CO.UK   Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad 

MEANWHILE .....................

I have now finally got ALL the pieces necessary to complete the brake upgrade , so I'm just waiting for my son to come back from holiday then we can arrange a weekend where we are both off work then we can fit it all ( just easier to bleed the brake system between the two of us ) Smile 

Was my M.O.T. on Friday ( 16th ) , so due to the saga of the red sprocket I was forced to buy a STEEL rear sprocket so that I could replace the chain set ............... which although I was a little pissed off that it wasn't a nice lightweight alloy one , I am SOOOOOOOOO glad that I did manage to get it done as it meant my bike PASSED with NO PROBLEMS or ADVISORIES Cool Cool 

Plus the fact , you can really tell the difference between the old knackered chain set and the new OH SO SMOOTH one Smile 

So , a mixture of good and bad luck this month ............. Wink 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Tue 8 Oct 2013 - 13:09

So , latest update ...............

Well , not too long after my last post I had my heart attack ............. so after a short stay in hospital , I am now off work ( my 6th week up to now ) and under strict instructions from Mrs Bazza ( and my Doc as well Very Happy Very Happy  ) to take it nice and easy .

So unfortunately , that has meant NO WORKING ON THE BIKE No No 

I'm allowed to ride it now of course but nothing else at present , which means all my nice new shiny brake hoses and banjos are still in their wrappers Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad 

Hopefully going back to work on 21st Oct , so after that there's no reason not to to do the swap ......... all the financial outlay is done so it's just time and effort now Wink 

Can't wait now , my brakes are due a good strip and clean ready for winter anyway ( I'm having to pull harder on the lever more and more ) , so to be able just to change the lot over will be great Smile Smile 

Watch this space Cool 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Cloud. on Tue 8 Oct 2013 - 16:26

Soon you will be braking and stopping like never before!

AHAHAHAHAHAAA! Twisted Evil 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Tue 8 Oct 2013 - 17:04

Bloody hope so Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by dragonpage on Fri 11 Oct 2013 - 13:38

Looking forward to seeing some photos when its all done Baz Smile
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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Sun 25 May 2014 - 16:35

Well it's been a while since I last updated my thread .............................. OK then , first of all , I will upload some pics soon guys ( promise  Wink  ) but for now let me just say '' IT'S FINISHED ''  cheers  cheers  cheers  cheers 

However , first impressions are mixed ................ the brakes themselves , stop the bike on a penny .... '' Stoppies Sir ? No problem ''  Laughing  Laughing but the lever has no effect on the brakes in the first part of it's travel meaning , where I normally have my adjuster set to No.3 , I now have to have it on No.6 otherwise the lever touches the bar before the brakes engage  Rolling Eyes 

At first it was a bit disconcerting having so much travel on the lever , especially as nothing happened in the early part of the squeeze but with the lever on No.6 , I can brake as hard as I like using just 2 fingers and the lever won't touch .

I'm not too sure why this has happened ............ it could be because the Hyo rotor is thinner than the Honda rotor so the pistons have further to travel or it could be DOT 5.1 fluid I'm using ( I've always used DOT 4 in the past ) or even the lever itself may be at fault and then there is always the possibility that the seals have gone in the master cylinder and are letting fluid past ( though there doesn't seem to be any loss in pressure when braking ) so I may have these replaced before my M.O.T later this year . There are no leaks anywhere either ( I have checked and re-checked just to be on the safe side )...................... if funds ever allow I would like to change the rotors to either some Armstrong or EBC ones ( especially those sexy wavy discs  Laughing  Laughing  ) too

All in all , I'm glad I have done the swap as braking in general is sooo much better than before  Cool  Cool 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by dragonpage on Mon 26 May 2014 - 16:25

Sounding good Baz!!
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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by joel352 on Mon 26 May 2014 - 16:50

On my gsxr I had a master cylinder recal done on the front brakes. I have ASV shortys on and the new cylinder made the brake leaver come in quite far befor the brakes came on. It turned out the standard plunger rod was shorter than the ASV supplied one. Swapped over the rod and brakes back to new.
might be worth looking at.
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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Tue 27 May 2014 - 15:16

Cheers Joel  Wink  

It's worth a look , although my levers are just cheap chinese ones and as such aren't supplied with any bits like yours so I may not be able to do much about that  Crying or Very sad 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Tue 27 May 2014 - 15:45

As promised , some pics  Wink 







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Post by NickC on Tue 27 May 2014 - 22:08

looking good baz
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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by joel352 on Wed 28 May 2014 - 10:08

I have a spare one if it is any good
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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Fri 6 Jun 2014 - 17:30

Cheers mate ............... does that go on the end of the lever or in the master cylinder ?

If it's the lever then it won't fit on mine ( it doesn't have a plunger like that on it  Rolling Eyes  )

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Post by joel352 on Fri 6 Jun 2014 - 17:48

The fat end goes in the master cylinder and then the long thing bit goes into the leaver.

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by Admin on Fri 6 Jun 2014 - 18:04

Looking at that , it won't work on my levers but thanks all the same Joel  Cool  Cool 

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Re: Brake Upgrade

Post by joel352 on Fri 6 Jun 2014 - 21:03

Ok baz, was worth a look at though.
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